Training to the fist

Date: Jun 17, 2004

Training to the fist

Date: Jun 17, 2004

Johnny, place the meat in between your forefinger and thumb of your gloved hand, hold your hand out to the right side of you dont stand face on and make sure the owl can see right passed your gloved hand. Brandish the food and call your owl blow your whistle before and when your owl is eating. The whistle is so the bird will recognise sound and associate this sound with food.

Hope thats sounds ok for you.

Joe

Date: Jun 17, 2004

Thanks for that advice joe ,ive read the books it does,nt go into detail that much .

All the best

Johnny

Date: Jun 18, 2004

Joe ive been up to preston brook and towards northwich and got some land to hunt on i got about 600 acres ,so thats a start aint it ?so where are you from ?

Round warrington ?

johnny

Date: Jun 18, 2004

Joe im going to cut one feed out tonight and see if he,s more eager in the morning ,i sat there for 2 hours like a muppet to no avail ,i wont be cutting his food again till he,s a few more weeks older if it doesnt work ,

thanks

johnny .

P.S am i right or wrong

Date: Jun 18, 2004

Alright Johnny,

I'm no owl expert (had a couple of Euro E Owls) but if you're imprinting your owl I'd forget training and putting your bird in the aviery for a few weeks yet. You need to keep the bird with you 24hrs a day if possible to imprint fully. Whatever you do dont try to cut a six week old birds weight down, you're asking for all sorts of trouble if it becomes mal-nurished. Keep it well fed and with you as much as possible, do it right and you wont be able to keep the little fu**er away from you, never mind jumping to the glove

Keep us posted

Shaun

Date: Jun 18, 2004

Alright shaun ill do that ,i was going to give it baked beans to make it fart and rocket over to me arm ,I like your sense of humour ,lol ill feed the hungry twat all its been doing all night is squawking and ive been holding me arm out i never thought your arm could ache so much ,i feel as though ive done ten rounds with mike tyson ,

Happy moulting

Johnny

Date: Jun 18, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: johnny
"Joe ive been up to preston brook and towards northwich and got some land to hunt on i got about 600 acres ,so thats a start aint it ?so where are you from ? Round warrington ? johnny "

600 acres is great Johnny its a fair bit of land. I'm from Latchford in Warrington you know it?

Date: Jun 18, 2004

Joe yeah i do know latchford ,is,nt it where the outcast from warrington go ,lol yeah i use to work with aload of lads from up there years ago ,so how old are you ?

Im 34

Date: Jun 19, 2004

Joe i got up the morning had a coffee me owl was squawking ,i ignored him for an hour to make him more keen i put me glove on and cut his chick up ,he jumped on the arm of the settee so i whistled as you said i put me arm out put the meat on the glove and teased him for a minute ?

Abracadabra he jumped ,and again ,he did it six times after that i just let him feed off the glove with the rest of the meat .

Thanks for the advice

Is it a record he,s only six weeks today ,lol

I must be the owl whisperer.

Johnny

Date: Jun 19, 2004

Johnny give your owl as much food as you can while its so young there's plenty of time to get it comming to the fist. Owls like other birds are susceptible to rickets and other adnormalities if they aint fed a good amount and variety of food. What are you feeding it on at the moment.

Not as many outcast as there used to be johnny in Latchford still some good lads there though. I'm 42 ****ing hate saying that.

Date: Jun 19, 2004

It seems like there are a few peeps from my old area of the nw on here i used to live in st helens b4 moving to essex... What a small world this is

Date: Jun 19, 2004

Joe me owls eating 2n0 week old chicks a day the odd day ill give him 2 mice and half a rat ive got this vitamin supplement ive started giving him this week only once a week though . i aint missed a feed yet he jumped a few times today so im happy with that ?

P.s you,ll soon be 50

johnny

I went this farm yesterday and the farmer said if i can get rid of the pigeons in his barn he,ll let me fly the land ?

Date: Jun 19, 2004

Are pylons dangerous for the birds ?As ive got this park at the back of me its about 100 acres but theres a pylon on the outerskirts of it

Thanks

Johnny

Date: Jun 19, 2004

Its good your feeding your Owl a variety of foods. Pylons can be a danger to all things Johnny. Dont worry to much about it though.

lol, thanks for reminding me about my forthcoming fifty'th birthday Johnny I will make sure I send you an invite to the birthday bash.

Cheers

Joe

Date: Jun 19, 2004

Yeah joe i think i know most of the basics about rearing its just i like second opinions on the subject .the computer a good source of communication as i stutter a lot on the phone and id need to take out a second mortgage to talk to people ,you wouldnt of guessed ive got 8 lads working for me ,lol

Johnny

Date: Jun 20, 2004

When you thinknig of getting a hawk? What you getting a Redtail ot a harris when you do get one? Whats the name of your roofing company called Johnny?

Date: Jun 20, 2004

Joe im hoping in time to get a harris ,ive heard they are an ideal bird to start off with .I got this book about 1 year ago called The harris hawk by lee william harris ,its a good read ?

Me roofing companies called widnes roofing services ,i dont advertise anymore i just do sub contract work for bigger companies now ,ive been going for 8 years everythings going fine ,touch wood,lol.,are your birds going through the moult ?there,s some people that postpone the moult ,whats the reason for that?

Happy fathers day

Johnny

P.S i got england shorts and a mug

Date: Jun 22, 2004

Alright Johnny Harris hawks are great birds mate. I'm sur you will make a good falconer, already you have got some permission. You buying a young hawk or 1 thats been entered (Hunting game). Some people fly their birds through the moult Johnny just as in they would fly in the wild. Not sure if I agree fully with this. But every1 has a right in their own choice in matters.

L8R Johnny

Date: Jun 23, 2004

Joe

Im going to get a young harris about 16 weeks and do the manning myself .Im manning me owl at the moment just play really he,s flying to the fist in the garden and the house ,he,s not flying proper yet i reckon in the next 2 or 3 weeks he,ll be in full flight then so im going to have to get the jess,es on and leash ,some one said you can tether him at 10 weeks i just hope his bones are strong enough then ,

So when does the hunting season start i bet your bored not being able to go out with the birds ?

Take care

Johnny

Date: Jul 2, 2004

Hi Johnny,
Have you sorted your bird out , is it now coming to the fist. I hope so, but if its not and you still need help then email me I may be able to help you, seven months ago I was in the some boat. My Harris is now taking fur and feather on regular outings.
Regards Rob

Date: Jul 2, 2004

Alright rob matie

Me owls doing brill m8 its flying to the fist 15ft now ive got him on the creance in the back garden and on the park at the back ,the parks a few 100 acre,s so im ok everythings going like clock work ,touch wood ,lol

so how are your hawks ?in time me dreams to get a harris hawk im using the owl the get use to weighing and flying ,i enjoyed your reply before ,i bet you,ve had some good times with your hawks ,the birds get to be one of the family im we are feeling that now just like 1 of the kids ,

p.s sorry if the writing aint good im half drunk ,lol its friday

Take care and happy hunting m8

johnny

Date: Jul 3, 2004

alright joe,

its a diffrent rob pal lol

all the best rob the 1st lol

Date: Jul 4, 2004

Rob how long did it take you from start to finish to get the harris flying free .

Regards

Johnny the hawk master ,lol

Date: Jul 4, 2004

Hey People, im wanting to get into the hobby of falconry and was just woundering if youl could tell me where I could obtain info on where I can get a license from and how to apply for one. thanks for ur time and all info u seply

Dan

Date: Jul 4, 2004

Hey People, im wanting to get into the hobby of falconry and was just woundering if youl could tell me where I could obtain info on where I can get a license from and how to apply for one. thanks for ur time and all info u seply

Dan

p.s im wanting to start out with a scotish perogine, is that a good starter bird? dont think i will do hunting with it though just flying.

Date: Jul 4, 2004

Hey People, im wanting to get into the hobby of falconry and was just woundering if youl could tell me where I could obtain info on where I can get a license from and how to apply for one. thanks for ur time and all info u seply

Dan

p.s im wanting to start out with a scotish perogine, is that a good starter bird? dont think i will do hunting with it though just flying.

Date: Jul 4, 2004

alright jonny,

on the subject of time to train a bird there all diffrent mate as a rule a harris will take bout a month to 6 weeks, the quickest ive done one is 9 days after taking out of the avairy to its first kill but that was in scotland and it was lifting with rabbits, the bird was a very special harris aswell the one mentioned in a previous post

all the bst rob

Date: Jul 6, 2004

Hello rob

I was only asking you as a matter of curiosity,

I bet you felt good when the harris was out flying free and catching in 9 days ,id of had it in the mail on sunday ,lol so have you ever had a owl ,my african spotted is getting trained at the moment every day it seems to learn more ,i know it is,nt true falconry having an owl but its the next best thing .

All the best

johnny

Date: Jul 6, 2004

i would blow the whisle first and get the bird used to coming to the fist on command ie: on the whisle you may get other peaple giving you lots of advice on training your bird the best advice i would say is to listen to all advice given and make your own mind up
just remember everyone makes mistakes but we must learn from them